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Badger's drift.
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Caligula
2008-07-09 19:01:44 UTC
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It is in the first title from the serie Midsomer murders, but I do not
understand the meaning of. Cause a badger is a country animal, perhaps in
latin meles and drift is a flow, a movement or a sort of mass as a drift of
snow, of leaves, of smoke... or a meaning ! Many things in a word ! But what
means Badger's drift?

Melis sententia?
Melis vis?
Melis propositum or consilium?
Melis cumulus?
Melis fluctus?
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Caligula
Ed Cryer
2008-07-09 21:18:36 UTC
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Post by Caligula
It is in the first title from the serie Midsomer murders, but I do not
understand the meaning of. Cause a badger is a country animal, perhaps in
latin meles and drift is a flow, a movement or a sort of mass as a drift of
snow, of leaves, of smoke... or a meaning ! Many things in a word ! But what
means Badger's drift?
Melis sententia?
Melis vis?
Melis propositum or consilium?
Melis cumulus?
Melis fluctus?
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Caligula
Rorke's Drift was a mission station in Natal, South Africa, situated
near a natural ford (drift) on the Buffalo River.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorke's_Drift

Drift, Cornwall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift,_Cornwall

Ed
Ed Cryer
2008-07-09 21:34:40 UTC
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
drift Audio Help /drɪft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[drift] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a driving movement or force; impulse; impetus; pressure.
2. Navigation. (of a ship) the component of the movement that is due to
the force of wind and currents.
3. Oceanography. a broad, shallow ocean current that advances at the
rate of 10 to 15 mi. (16 to 24 km) a day.
4. Nautical. a. the flow or the speed in knots of an ocean current.
b. the distance between the end of a rope and the part in use.
c. the distance between two blocks in a tackle.
d. the difference in diameter between two parts, one of which fits
within the other, as a mast and its mast hoops, or a treenail and its
hole.
5. Aeronautics. the deviation of an aircraft from a set course due to
cross winds.
6. the course along which something moves; tendency; aim: The drift of
political events after the war was toward chaos.
7. a meaning; intent; purport: the drift of a statement.
8. something driven, as animals, rain, etc.
9. a heap of any matter driven together.
10. a snowdrift.
11. Geology. glacial drift.
12. the state or process of being driven.
13. overbearing power or influence.
14. Military. a tool used in charging an ordnance piece.
15. Electronics. a. a gradual change in some operating characteristic of
a circuit, tube, or other electronic device, either during a brief
period as an effect of warming up or during a long period as an effect
of continued use.
b. the movement of charge carriers in a semiconductor due to the
influence of an applied voltage.
16. Linguistics. gradual change in the structure of a language.
17. Machinery. a. Also called driftpin. a round, tapering piece of steel
for enlarging holes in metal, or for bringing holes in line to receive
rivets or bolts.
b. a flat, tapered piece of steel used to drive tools with tapered
shanks, as drill bits, from their holders.
18. Civil Engineering. a secondary tunnel between two main tunnels or
shafts.
19. Mining. an approximately horizontal passageway in underground
mining.
20. Physics. the movement of charged particles under the influence of an
electric field.
21. Aerospace. the gradual deviation of a rocket or guided missile from
its intended trajectory.
22. Mechanics. displacement of the gimbals of a gyroscope due to
friction on bearings, unbalance of the gyroscope's mass or other
imperfections.
23. the thrust of an arched structure.
24. Dentistry. a shift of the teeth from their normal position in the
dental arch.
25. Western U.S. a flock of animals or birds.
–verb (used without object) 26. to be carried along by currents of water
or air, or by the force of circumstances.
27. to wander aimlessly: He drifts from town to town.
28. to be driven into heaps, as by the wind: drifting sand.
29. to deviate or vary from a set course or adjustment.
–verb (used with object) 30. to carry along: The current drifted the
boat to sea.
31. to drive into heaps: The wind drifted the snow.
32. Machinery. a. to enlarge (a punched or drilled hole) with a drift.
b. to align or straighten (holes, esp. rivet holes) with a drift.

—Verb phrase33. drift off, to fall asleep gradually.


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[Origin: 1250–1300; ME drift, n. deriv. of OE drīfan to drive; c. D
drift herd, flock, G Trift herd, pasturage, road to pasture]

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B. T. Raven
2008-07-09 22:43:10 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
drift Audio Help /drɪft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[drift] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a driving movement or force; impulse; impetus; pressure.
2. Navigation. (of a ship) the component of the movement that is due to
the force of wind and currents.
3. Oceanography. a broad, shallow ocean current that advances at the
rate of 10 to 15 mi. (16 to 24 km) a day.
4. Nautical. a. the flow or the speed in knots of an ocean current.
b. the distance between the end of a rope and the part in use.
c. the distance between two blocks in a tackle.
d. the difference in diameter between two parts, one of which fits
within the other, as a mast and its mast hoops, or a treenail and its hole.
5. Aeronautics. the deviation of an aircraft from a set course due to
cross winds.
6. the course along which something moves; tendency; aim: The drift of
political events after the war was toward chaos.
7. a meaning; intent; purport: the drift of a statement.
8. something driven, as animals, rain, etc.
9. a heap of any matter driven together.
10. a snowdrift.
11. Geology. glacial drift.
12. the state or process of being driven.
13. overbearing power or influence.
14. Military. a tool used in charging an ordnance piece.
15. Electronics. a. a gradual change in some operating characteristic of
a circuit, tube, or other electronic device, either during a brief
period as an effect of warming up or during a long period as an effect
of continued use.
b. the movement of charge carriers in a semiconductor due to the
influence of an applied voltage.
16. Linguistics. gradual change in the structure of a language.
17. Machinery. a. Also called driftpin. a round, tapering piece of steel
for enlarging holes in metal, or for bringing holes in line to receive
rivets or bolts.
b. a flat, tapered piece of steel used to drive tools with tapered
shanks, as drill bits, from their holders.
18. Civil Engineering. a secondary tunnel between two main tunnels or
shafts.
19. Mining. an approximately horizontal passageway in underground mining.
20. Physics. the movement of charged particles under the influence of an
electric field.
21. Aerospace. the gradual deviation of a rocket or guided missile from
its intended trajectory.
22. Mechanics. displacement of the gimbals of a gyroscope due to
friction on bearings, unbalance of the gyroscope's mass or other
imperfections.
23. the thrust of an arched structure.
24. Dentistry. a shift of the teeth from their normal position in the
dental arch.
25. Western U.S. a flock of animals or birds.
–verb (used without object) 26. to be carried along by currents of water
or air, or by the force of circumstances.
27. to wander aimlessly: He drifts from town to town.
28. to be driven into heaps, as by the wind: drifting sand.
29. to deviate or vary from a set course or adjustment.
–verb (used with object) 30. to carry along: The current drifted the
boat to sea.
31. to drive into heaps: The wind drifted the snow.
32. Machinery. a. to enlarge (a punched or drilled hole) with a drift.
b. to align or straighten (holes, esp. rivet holes) with a drift.
—Verb phrase33. drift off, to fall asleep gradually.
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[Origin: 1250–1300; ME drift, n. deriv. of OE drīfan to drive; c. D
drift herd, flock, G Trift herd, pasturage, road to pasture]
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It looks like 8 or 25 are the most likely candidates. If drift (ford)
isn't from "a place where a drover can cause a drift (of animals) to
cross a stream" then it looks like that sense is not among the 32
listed. I didn't know 4b, c, d, or 14.

Vadum melium (if it's really Badgers'not Badger's)

or maybe

Vexatoris consilium
Richard van Schaik
2008-07-09 23:11:29 UTC
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Post by B. T. Raven
listed. I didn't know 4b, c, d, or 14.
Knots in the past were measured by a piece of rope with weights. the
number of weights laid out without sinking gave a indication of speed of
the vessel.

Richard
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Mike Lyle
2008-07-10 19:07:38 UTC
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Post by B. T. Raven
Post by Ed Cryer
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
drift Audio Help /dr?ft/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
Pronunciation[drift] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun
1. a driving movement or force; impulse; impetus; pressure.
2. Navigation. (of a ship) the component of the movement that is due
to the force of wind and currents.
3. Oceanography. a broad, shallow ocean current that advances at the
rate of 10 to 15 mi. (16 to 24 km) a day.
4. Nautical. a. the flow or the speed in knots of an ocean current.
b. the distance between the end of a rope and the part in use.
c. the distance between two blocks in a tackle.
d. the difference in diameter between two parts, one of which fits
within the other, as a mast and its mast hoops, or a treenail and
its hole. 5. Aeronautics. the deviation of an aircraft from a set
course due to
cross winds.
6. the course along which something moves; tendency; aim: The drift
of political events after the war was toward chaos.
7. a meaning; intent; purport: the drift of a statement.
8. something driven, as animals, rain, etc.
9. a heap of any matter driven together.
10. a snowdrift.
11. Geology. glacial drift.
12. the state or process of being driven.
13. overbearing power or influence.
14. Military. a tool used in charging an ordnance piece.
15. Electronics. a. a gradual change in some operating
characteristic of a circuit, tube, or other electronic device, either
during a brief
period as an effect of warming up or during a long period as an
effect of continued use.
b. the movement of charge carriers in a semiconductor due to the
influence of an applied voltage.
16. Linguistics. gradual change in the structure of a language.
17. Machinery. a. Also called driftpin. a round, tapering piece of
steel for enlarging holes in metal, or for bringing holes in line to
receive rivets or bolts.
b. a flat, tapered piece of steel used to drive tools with tapered
shanks, as drill bits, from their holders.
18. Civil Engineering. a secondary tunnel between two main tunnels or
shafts.
19. Mining. an approximately horizontal passageway in underground
mining. 20. Physics. the movement of charged particles under the
influence
of an electric field.
21. Aerospace. the gradual deviation of a rocket or guided missile
from its intended trajectory.
22. Mechanics. displacement of the gimbals of a gyroscope due to
friction on bearings, unbalance of the gyroscope's mass or other
imperfections.
23. the thrust of an arched structure.
24. Dentistry. a shift of the teeth from their normal position in the
dental arch.
25. Western U.S. a flock of animals or birds.
-verb (used without object) 26. to be carried along by currents of
water or air, or by the force of circumstances.
27. to wander aimlessly: He drifts from town to town.
28. to be driven into heaps, as by the wind: drifting sand.
29. to deviate or vary from a set course or adjustment.
-verb (used with object) 30. to carry along: The current drifted the
boat to sea.
31. to drive into heaps: The wind drifted the snow.
32. Machinery. a. to enlarge (a punched or drilled hole) with a
drift. b. to align or straighten (holes, esp. rivet holes) with a
drift.
-Verb phrase33. drift off, to fall asleep gradually.
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[Origin: 1250-1300; ME drift, n. deriv. of OE drifan to drive; c. D
drift herd, flock, G Trift herd, pasturage, road to pasture]
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It looks like 8 or 25 are the most likely candidates. If drift (ford)
isn't from "a place where a drover can cause a drift (of animals) to
cross a stream" then it looks like that sense is not among the 32
listed. I didn't know 4b, c, d, or 14.
Vadum melium (if it's really Badgers'not Badger's)
or maybe
Vexatoris consilium
If it's not purely fanciful, chosen for euphony, perhaps it refers to
the badger's sett, by analogy with the mining sense, 19. A "drift mine"
is distinguished from a shaft pit by being driven direct into a
hillside, just like an animal's burrow--in fact some pits have an older
entrance which can be used as a walking escape route if the winding gear
for the cage fails. So, "Cuniculum melis"? "Domus [subterranea] melis"?
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Mike.
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